Article:		Kicking out the Cuckoo
Subject:		Web Services and Semantic Web
Date:		2002-05-01 10:58:44
From:		Mark Baker
Response to: Web Services and Semantic Web
Yah, that was my contribution you quoted there. 8-) Unfortunately, it's not as simple as that. Web Services and the Semantic Web are two ways of addressing basically the same problem; machine automation. But only one reuses Web architecture/REST.

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• Web Services and Semantic Web
  2002-05-02 06:10:12 David Steinberg [Reply]
  
  I wonder if Roy Fielding would agree with your radical dualism.

  
  see
  "In order for SOAP-ng to succeed as a Web protocol, it needs to start
  behaving like it is part of the Web. That means, among other things,
  that it should stop trying to encapsulate all sorts of actions under
  an object-specific interface. It needs to limit its object-specific
  behavior to those situations in which object-specific behavior is
  actually desirable. If it does not do so, then it is not using URI
  as the basis for resource identification, and therefore it is
  no more part of the Web than SMTP."

  
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2002Apr/0181.html

  
  David Steinberg
  
  

  • Web Services and Semantic Web
    2002-05-03 05:09:49 Mark Baker [Reply]
    
    Yes, thanks. I've been the principle supporter of REST principles within the XML Protocol WG. SOAP 1.2 is REST compatible in large part because of my contributions.

    
    Too bad people don't use it that way.

    
    MB
    
    

• Web Services and Semantic Web
  2002-05-01 11:35:39 Mark Baker [Reply]
  
  "Yah, that was my contribution you quoted there. 8-)"

  
  Mea culpa, no it wasn't. Mine was for the WSAWG.