Article:		Kicking out the Cuckoo
Subject:		Web Services and Semantic Web
Date:		2002-05-01 07:19:05
From:		David Steinberg
If the W3C can insure a maximum integration of Web Service and semantic Web architecture it will fully justify the effort put in. Perhaps Topic Mapping might have a role here. David Steinberg ottawa Canada from Web Service Description Requirements - W3C Working Draft 29 April 2002 section 4 requirements 4.12 Mapping to the Semantic Web R070 The WG specification(s) MUST allow providing a mapping from the description language to [RDF]. (From the Charter. Last revised 11 April, 2002.) R120 [Draft] The description language SHOULD ensure that all conceptual elements in the description of Messages are addressable by a URI reference [RFC2396]. (From the Semantic Web. Added 11 April, 2002. Awaiting clarification from RDF.)

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• Web Services and Semantic Web
  2002-05-01 10:58:44 Mark Baker [Reply]
  
  Yah, that was my contribution you quoted there. 8-)

  
  Unfortunately, it's not as simple as that. Web Services and the Semantic Web are two ways of addressing basically the same problem; machine automation. But only one reuses Web architecture/REST.
  
  

  • Web Services and Semantic Web
    2002-05-01 11:35:39 Mark Baker [Reply]
    
    "Yah, that was my contribution you quoted there. 8-)"

    
    Mea culpa, no it wasn't. Mine was for the WSAWG.
    
    

  • Web Services and Semantic Web
    2002-05-02 06:10:12 David Steinberg [Reply]
    
    I wonder if Roy Fielding would agree with your radical dualism.

    
    see
    "In order for SOAP-ng to succeed as a Web protocol, it needs to start
    behaving like it is part of the Web. That means, among other things,
    that it should stop trying to encapsulate all sorts of actions under
    an object-specific interface. It needs to limit its object-specific
    behavior to those situations in which object-specific behavior is
    actually desirable. If it does not do so, then it is not using URI
    as the basis for resource identification, and therefore it is
    no more part of the Web than SMTP."

    
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2002Apr/0181.html

    
    David Steinberg
    
    

    • Web Services and Semantic Web
      2002-05-03 05:09:49 Mark Baker [Reply]
      
      Yes, thanks. I've been the principle supporter of REST principles within the XML Protocol WG. SOAP 1.2 is REST compatible in large part because of my contributions.

      
      Too bad people don't use it that way.

      
      MB